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Illidan
06-16-2009, 01:08 AM
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Perhaps he should be called Captain Phoenix?

Rising from the dead after being killed off over two years ago, Captain America is being resurrected by Marvel Comics.

Though the circumstances of his return are being closely shielded, the star-spangled superhero returns July 1 in a five-comic-book series, "Captain America Reborn."

A big-budget movie in development by Marvel is also expected in 2011.

After close to 60 years in print, Marvel Comics killed off Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, in 2007, one of its most famous and beloved superheroes, amid a controversial story line.

He fought and triumphed over Hitler, Tojo, international Communism and a host of super-villains, but a sniper's bullet cut Captain America down in 2007, a move that shocked many of his fans.

"The reaction was amazing," says Marvel Executive Editor Tom Breevort. "It certainly was like the world went crazy for three days. Everybody had a point of view about it, including fans who hadn't read the comic for 30 years."

In the comic series, Rogers was to stand trial for defying a superhero registration law passed after a hero's tragic mistake causes a 9/11-like event. Marvel said the comic story line was intentionally written as an allegory to current real-life issues like the Patriot Act, the war on terror and September 11.

Rogers eventually surrenders to police. He is later mortally wounded as he climbs the courthouse steps. It was a violent and strange end for an American hero and icon.

The primary shooter, Crossbones -- working under the orders of Captain America's longtime nemesis, the Red Skull -- was caught. The identity of a second shooter is revealed in issue 600, which goes on sale Monday.

Many felt Captain America's death in 2007 was symbolic of the time. And his return now?

"The tenor of the world now is when we're at a point where we want to believe in heroes. Someone who can lead the way," said Breevort. "It just feels like the right time."

Captain America first appeared in 1941, just as the United States entered World War II. He was a symbol of American strength and resolve in fighting the Axis powers.

As originally conceived by creators Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, Rogers was born before the Great Depression in a very different America. He disappeared after the war and only reappeared recently in the Marvel timeline.

Keeping superheroes dead and buried does not come easy. Even Superman, who was killed off by DC Comics in 1993, came back to life a year later.

And what of Captain America's sidekick, Bucky Barnes? After taking up the shield and mission of Captain America for the past year, it'll be time to relinquish the mantle. Is there room for two sentinels of liberty? Stay tuned

Source (http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/06/15/captain.america/index.html)

Wolfen Akari
06-16-2009, 01:53 AM
Somewhere. Not too far from where I live. One of my exes is crying for joy and squealing like a little girl.


I kid you not.

Grunthos
06-16-2009, 03:52 AM
Let's hope the first thing Cap does is chase that moronic pretender out of the Oval Office.

Tonus
06-16-2009, 02:16 PM
Let's hope the first thing Cap does is chase that moronic pretender out of the Oval Office.

Don't hold your breath, most comic book pros make Keith Olbermann look like a right winger. Note that Cap's death was part of a comic book 'event' where the government started cracking down on personal liberties... which was a jab at the Bush administration. Note also that the return of the great American patriotic super hero is seen as a rebirth of all that is good in America... which is supposed to represent the new administration.

There's a reason that super heroes, as a whole, are supremely pussified in comics, and have been for decades. Allowing for the occasional outlier, like Wolverine, or Batman as written by (notably non-left-leaning) Frank Miller. As for Wolverine, do you think that comic creators ever came to the obvious conclusion as to why a take-no-prisoners personality that prefers to deal with murderers in a language that they understand has remained wildly popular in a medium filled with politically-correct 'heroes'?

S Carver Orne
06-16-2009, 02:25 PM
http://www.iconocast.com/B000000000000132/E4/News1_1.jpg

http://www.porhomme.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/spiderman-comic-book-obama.jpg

http://youngpoorandangry.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/savage-dragon-barack-obama.jpg

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/227/Obama_The_Comic_Book.jpg

http://nonstopinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/obama.jpg

There's more, but I'm done making my point.

Grunthos
06-17-2009, 12:48 AM
/retch

Dr. L
06-17-2009, 12:54 AM
/diarrhea

Wolfen Akari
06-17-2009, 01:48 AM
/spontaneous combustion

S Carver Orne
06-17-2009, 04:33 AM
/total protonic reversal

Tonus
06-17-2009, 12:36 PM
The over-the-top stuff is easiest to spot, yeah. But consider this scene from a fairly recent issue of one of the Batman comics:

- A man has been shot dead. This man is not only a childhood friend of Bruce Wayne's, he is also the surgeon who saved Wayne's life recently, when he suffered severe injuries from a fall. The Joker is standing nearby, with a smoking gun in his hand.

- Batman is on the scene and has knocked the Joker to the ground, and has his hands around the Joker's throat. He's so enraged that he's finally about to put an end to the life of a man who has indiscriminately and deliberately (and with absolutely no remorse) murdered thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of people in his lifetime.

- Commissioner Gordon, an old friend of Batman (who may well have saved Gordon's job, life, and the life of his daughter at various points in the past) steps up to Batman, puts a gun to his head, and states his intent to kill Batman if he attempts to strangle the Joker. Gordon is serious enough that Batman relents.

The rationalization for this is one that Batman (and many super-heroes) has used in the past-- killing the Joker would make Batman no better than the Joker. It's an appalling example of moral relativism-- the deliberate and cold-blooded murder of thousands of people for the sheer amusement of the perpetrator is NO DIFFERENT from killing that perpetrator before he is able to murder even more people.

Edit to add: to drive their point home, the story eventually reveals that the Joker did not murder the man in question, but was set up to make it seem as if he did. In other words, we're to understand that Batman nearly murdered an innocent man. The Joker, the ultimate terrorist, was almost an innocent victim! Does that sound familiar, by any chance?

This is the mindset of a large number of people who work in that industry. I had the pleasure of knowing some of the more rational people who work(ed) in comics, but they were few and very far between.

Grunthos
06-18-2009, 01:14 AM
Therein lies the only way in which the Keaton Batman was superior to the Bayle Batman.

Dr. L
06-18-2009, 03:00 AM
I couldn't stand Bayle's Batman, he dampened the movies for me. He sounded like a hoarse old woman from the DMV.

Grunthos
06-18-2009, 03:35 AM
Well, yes... but Keaton's Batman sounded like a thorazine-muddled metrosexual trying hard not to break into a Beetlejuice riff.

Dr. L
06-18-2009, 03:42 AM
You think so? Hrm.


I've just never been able to take Bayle seriously. It seemed like he was trying too hard. But whatever makes the fans happy.

At least the fans aren't getting screwed on that like the Harry Potter fans are. We're all still ashamed about that Werewolf.

Ythogtha
06-23-2009, 03:08 AM
You think so? Hrm.


I've just never been able to take Bayle seriously. It seemed like he was trying too hard. But whatever makes the fans happy.

At least the fans aren't getting screwed on that like the Harry Potter fans are. We're all still ashamed about that Werewolf.

Actually, I didn't mind the werewolf much. I actually thought it was a nice change of pace from the usual.